Letter to Shire City Herbals: Fire Cider Trademark

Dear Shire City Herbals(Brian, Dana and Amy)

This is an exceptionally painful letter to write to you all. I love seeing small herb companies get successful. I love seeing herbal remedies spread around to various shelves. I love Fire Cider. I love your labels. I love that you all seem to be conscious enough to want to market such a great kitchen remedy. I would normally wish you the greatest of successes. Unfortunately, you have chosen to do something, (maybe from getting bad advice or maybe just ignorance on the issue) that is bad for the herbal community, and could create a negative effect on future popular remedies and placing “ownership” legally over something that is thought of as part of our herbal “commons” so to say. It may be that you had no idea there really was a lot of people making Fire Cider for generations and selling it. You seem to be a rather new company and sometimes growing pains can be big. I want to start by saying I think that you could still be very successful and be supported even more right now if you all take the path that maybe your lawyers would have advised against. I ask you to dig deep and really think about this not as business people, but as herbalists, and caring individuals– as people who love Fire Cider.

Herbal Medicine’s tradition is one of being by the people and for the people. Herbalists such as Nicholas Culpepper, and more recently Rosemary Gladstar, have led a long battle to keep herbs in the hands of the general populace, not an elite group, or medical group. Fire Cider is an exciting and popular remedy that many of my students and friends have wanted me to either mass market or they themselves have been pushed in this direction. I have taught 100s of people to make it. Many now sell it in their own neighborhoods and communities. Its delicious. I first learned about it in Eugene, Oregon in the late 90s and have been making it ever since. I read about your German grandmother making a similar concoction. Yes, my Hungarian grandmother in Budapest does as well. It is common. The name is as well in this country.

We all know it takes very hard work, as your responses have defended, to get products marketed well. Most herbalists never do it very well, choosing more of a craft than a product. You obviously have done the time and put energy in, which can be done to popularize just about any remedy. Its the same way some brands of Echinacea became stars, or products like Dr. Singhas Mustard Bath that got into big retail establishments. Now, you may have never heard of one of these items or known that they were popular, or who else knows about them, but that means nothing. They are. I do not think whomever did the research when deciding on the Trademark with Fire Cider did it with due diligence. I really think consulting with an established and knowledgeable herbalist right now would be of help to you.

I really hope you all consider your decision in this matter carefully and with a full heart. Most people are expressing their distaste for your actions, not your company, so please know that if you decide to do what is ethically right, and courageous to protect Traditional, popular herbalism, I will personally support your decision, as a Practicing Herbalist, Director of a Herb School, Activist–oh and human.

I know you probably have some canned responses to this type of letter, and nothing is more distasteful to me right now. I have already read your form letter responses. I ask for a human response. If you need to talk this out, I believe Rosemary Gladstar (who has already tried communicating about this and gotten what I saw as a generic and thoughtless response), is most likely available to you. I know it may be really hard to get yourselves out of where you are at right now, but I think we can figure this out. I really don’t want to see you completely lose all of your business after all of the hard work you have done.

Currently, 2500 people have petitioned against you in 24 hours. People are now contacting retail establishments and returning your product and asking to have your product pulled. I personally just spoke to the buyer of our local coop and am beginning the process of boycotting if you are unable to change your position. I would much rather be spending time on companies like Monsanto and other monsters, but with the direction you are taking, you are acting in the same thoughtless way they are and putting money and the idea that you need to “protect your business” before people’s health.

I love seeing multiple brands of herbals on the shelf. I love that several of my students have their own versions of Fire Cider, and I hope you can begin to reevaluate whether you can come to this situation from a place being part of a larger, and long tradition and community that operates with passion and respect. I want to respect you. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you figure out your next step. Wouldn’t it be great if we started a campaign and promoted it helping you to change the name? I really like the idea of Shire Cider that one person put forth. Just remember that whatever your decision, it will echo, and many people are watching(including my new class of 35 herbalists)


–Nicole Telkes
Practicing Herbalist
Wildflower School of Botanical Medicine

Wildflowers and revolution,
Nicole for FreeFireCider

One thought on “Letter to Shire City Herbals: Fire Cider Trademark

  1. Muhammad

    I really do hope to win! I don’t win these thngis mostly because I can never follow all the steps to do it..lol! I do enjoy sharing all this with our friends, that there are better ways to take care of our temple, so that we may live a long and blessed life here, serving our Lord Jesus Christ <3My husband and I are working hard, at helping our family live a healthy and "free" life. Not only free of sin, free from the world and the lusts that are in it! but free of additives, preservatives, pesticides, and all that goes into this grocery shopping life..lol! Eating healthy and expecially for our size family can get very expensive. It can get discouraging if you think about it too much!I'm longing to be in the place that God would have us growing our "own" and sharing with others! My prayer is we have so much more, than we need, so that we can give give give!We (our family) desires our own garden one day, and we are a great team! My husband Chris and I have five children, our eldest daughter Grace is 10, Chris Jr will be 9 this month, Joshua is 7, Elisabeth is 5, and our dear sweet little baby is Meadow Joy will be 2 in February:)We are hoping to find many more thngis in our lives to allow our temple to be completely useable by our Lord! We do have our moments of "sweetness" I do say! But I have been finding great healthy sweet recipes on Pintrest All together, we are striving to live our lives to completely be surrenedered and Glorify our Saviour!Galatians 2:20


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